Proposal: Scout Models — Lightweight Context-Delivery Agents for Codex #11751
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I need this for myself, I want a model which can asses a codebase, how user flow is, how business logic is, how is test coverage, does it use modern standards etc... |
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Problem
Codex currently operates with a single model that handles everything: reading the repository, understanding context, reasoning about the task, and producing patches. This creates a fundamental tension — a large, expensive model spends significant tokens (and time) on mechanical context gathering, while still frequently missing critical fragments of code that are essential for producing correct patches.
The result:
Proposed Solution: Scout Models
Introduce a scout layer — a fleet of small, fast, cheap models (think
gpt-5.1-codex-miniorgpt-5.3-codex-spark) whose sole job is context delivery to the primary model (gpt-5.3-codex,gpt-5.1-codex-max, etc.).Core Principles
[ANCHOR: target function signature — needed for return type inference]).How It Works
What a Scout Delivers (Example)
Instead of dumping an entire 2000-line file into the primary model's context, a scout delivers:
The primary model receives ~120 lines of precisely targeted context instead of ~3500 lines across two files. No noise, no irrelevant code, no guessing.
Why This Matters
Key Design Constraints
Scouts must NOT:
Scouts MUST:
Implementation Considerations
This could integrate with Codex's existing architecture:
scout_model: "gpt-5.1-codex-mini")The scout layer is conceptually similar to how a senior engineer works with a junior: the junior gathers all relevant files and highlights the important sections, then the senior makes the actual decisions and writes the code.
Future Vision: Role-Based Agent Pipeline with Per-Role Model Configuration
The scout concept naturally extends into a broader architecture — a role-based agent pipeline where each stage has a distinct responsibility and a separately configurable model. This would allow users to balance cost, speed, and quality at every step.
Proposed Pipeline
Why Per-Role Model Configuration Matters
Different roles have fundamentally different compute profiles:
gpt-5.3-codex-spark) or full (gpt-5.3-codex)gpt-5.1-codex-mini/gpt-5.3-codex-spark)gpt-5.3-codex/gpt-5.1-codex-max)gpt-5.3-codex-spark) or lightweight (gpt-5.1-codex-mini)A user working on a simple refactor might assign
gpt-5.3-codex-sparkto every role for maximum speed. A user working on a critical architectural change might assigngpt-5.1-codex-maxto the executor andgpt-5.3-codexto the validator. The point is: the user decides, based on their task and budget.Example Configuration
Key Benefit
The current single-model approach forces a trade-off: either you use an expensive model for everything (including mechanical scanning), or you use a cheaper model and accept lower patch quality. The role-based pipeline eliminates this trade-off — expensive reasoning only happens where it matters, while mechanical tasks run on fast, cheap models. The validator stage adds a safety net that catches errors before the user ever sees them, without requiring the primary model to self-review (which is both expensive and unreliable).
Offer to Contribute
If this direction aligns with OpenAI's roadmap for Codex, I would be happy to contribute to the implementation — whether that's prototyping the scout orchestration layer, defining the anchor protocol, or integrating it into the existing agent loop. I'm actively working with Codex CLI and have a concrete understanding of where context gaps cause failures in practice.
TL;DR: Add a layer of cheap, fast "scout" models (
gpt-5.1-codex-mini/gpt-5.3-codex-spark) that do nothing but read code and deliver precisely anchored raw fragments (with context headers) to the primary model (gpt-5.3-codex). Scouts never write diffs — they only gather and deliver context. This improves patch quality, reduces cost, and speeds up execution.Beta Was this translation helpful? Give feedback.
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